****************** InterScan Message (on FSmail) David is scanned at Siemens Defence and no virus found Geoff is scanned at Siemens Defence and no virus found Original_question is scanned at Siemens Defence and no virus found ********************************************************* ---------- X-Sun-Data-Type: text X-Sun-Data-Description: text X-Sun-Data-Name: text X-Sun-Charset: us-ascii X-Sun-Content-Lines: 45 Many thanks for replies from: casper@holland.sun.COM lorenzd@gcm.com Jeffrey_Harper-R22474@email.sps.mot.com david@bae.uga.edu vogelke@c17mis.region2.wpafb.af.mil jwf@ccuc.on.ca shubin@brain2.nida.nih.gov kcolagio@wc.eso.mc.xerox.com G.Lamb@epa.ericsson.se robertr@nwmarkets.co.jp I have not had the time to test or implement any of the suggested solutions yet, but I now have a lot of valuable input to the transition process from OpenWindows to CDE. There certainly is an INCLUDE-statement also for the CDE menu, and it seems to be possible to obtain most of the functionlity I wanted, but still more tricky than in OpenWindows. One of you suggested that the transition to CDE might not be necessary as Sun would still support OpenWindows, but I have already in several cases been told that all new development is done in CDE and that even if OpenWindows will still be available no new functionality will be added to the applications (mailtool etc.) this will only be in CDE. That is also why I don't want to go for solutions like olvwm (virtual-window version of olwm) as one of you suggested. Perhaps a Web-based user interface would be a better alternative to wait for ? The two most complete replies came from David Thornburn-Gundlach (david@bae.uga.edu) and Geoff Lamb (G.Lamb@epa.ericsson.se), so I am including thse as attachements, together with my original questions. Also, Shubin gave a pointer to further information: > Please check http://docs.sun.com:80/ab2/coll.8.39/CDEADMIN/@Ab2TocView? > for Solaris Common Desktop Environment: Advanced User's and > System Administrator's Guide. > Oddvar ------------------------------------------------------------------- Oddvar Andreassen Siemens Defence Systems, Oslo, Norway oda@fs.siemens.no Voice +47 22 63 31 72 Fax +47 22 63 41 07 ---------- X-Sun-Data-Type: mail-file X-Sun-Data-Description: mail-file X-Sun-Data-Name: David X-Sun-Encoding-Info: uuencode X-Sun-Content-Lines: 133 begin 600 David M1G)O;2!D879I9$!I8V4N8F%E+G5G82YE9'4@5'5E($1E8R Q-B Q.#HP,2!- M150@,3DY-PI&2!-:6-R;U-O9G0L(&)U= II="!I2!L:6ME*2!(4"=S(%9512!W:6YD;W=I M;F<@6]U(&-A;B!D;R!J=7-T('=H M870@>6]U('=A;G0N("!4:&5R92 J:7,J(&%N"FEN8VQU9&4@6]U("IC86XJ('5S92!A(&=L;V)A;"!F:6QE(&9O71H:6YG('1H92!U2!T:&%T($-$12!T M:&EN:W,@:70G2X@($9O7,N9'1W;7)C('-O('1H M870@979E2!A(&QI;F4@;&EK90H*("!I;F-L=61E"B @>PH@(" @)$A/344O+F5N=B]D M='=M6]U2!T;R!H879E(&EN('!R:6YT960*9F]R;2 H=&AO M=6=H('EO=2!M:6=H="!W86YT('1O(&1O=6)L92US:61E(&ET.R!I="=S(&%B M;W5T(#,P,"!P86=E6]U('5P9W)A9&4@>6]U7-T96TL('=H97)E87,@4W5N('=I M;&P*=6YC;VYD:71I;VYA;&QY(&]V97)W7-!9&UI;B!D;V5S;B=T("IH879E*B!T;R!C6]N92=S("YC7!I8V%L(B!M87-T97(@8V]P:65S("@O M971C+V1T+V-O;F9I9R]#+W-Y2X@($9I;F%L;'DL('EO=2!P;VEN="!T:&4@(G1Y M<&EC86PB(&UA2 H962!S87ES(")S;W5R8V4@+V=L M;V)A;"]C2!H M879E('1H90IA8FEL:71Y('1O(&-H86YG92!T:&4@9FEL97,N("!;37D@86YS M=V5R('1O('1H:7,L(&EF('EO=2!H879E('1O(&=E= IR96%L;'D@:&]S=&EL M92P@:7,@=&\@2!L87-T('-I=&4N("!9;W4G6]U('=A;G0@:70["FIU2!H879E('1O(&-H86YG92!T:&ES(2D*"@DM('1H M97)E(&ES(&$@9&5F875L=',@9&ER96-T;W)Y(&%T("]U0H)9G)O;2!T:&4@2!T:&4@2!S<&5C M:6%L(&9U;F-T:6]N2!W;VXG="!K;F]W(&ET)W,@=&-S:"P@86YD M(&EF('1H97D@9&\L"G1H97DG;&P@8F4@:&%P<'D@=&AA="!T:&5Y(&-A;B!D M;R!S;RP@86YD('1H97D@8V%N)W0@;&]O:R!A="!T:&5I<@IP97)S;VYA;"!F M:6QE2D@9&%V:61 8F%E+G5G82YE9'4@ M(" @(" @("H@=&AA;B!T;R!L:79E('5P('1O('1H96TN("TM(&9OF5R+F-O;2 @($AE;'!I;F<@;W5T(&%T(%!F:7IE<@IH='1P.B\O=W=W <+F)A92YU9V$N961U+V]T:&5R+V1A=FED+PH*"E!F end ---------- X-Sun-Data-Type: mail-file X-Sun-Data-Description: mail-file X-Sun-Data-Name: Geoff X-Sun-Encoding-Info: uuencode X-Sun-Content-Lines: 36 begin 600 Geoff M1G)O;2!'+DQA;6) 97!A+F5R:6-S2!I;G!U="!A<'!R96-I M871E9" M($D@=VEL;"!S=6UM87)I>F4N"CX@"@I(:2!/9&1V87(L"@I)(&AA M=F4@;F]T(&9O=6YD(&$@=V%Y('1O('1I92!D;W=N('1H92!UPHN+BXN+BXN"BXN+BXN+BX*?0H@"BTM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+0H*66]U M(&-O=6QD(&AA=F4@=&AE(&EN8VQU9&5D(&9I;&5S(&%U=&UO=6YT960@86YD M(&-O;G1R;VQL960@9G)O;2!A"F-E;G1R86P@2!O9B!U2!T:&4@=&]O;',@:&4@;F5E9',@971C+@I7 M92!A'1U2!C86X@<&QA>2!W:71H('1H96ER(&]W M;B!L;V-A;"!M96YU"G=I=&AO=70@86YY(')I7-T96TL(&%N9"!T:&%T M('1R86YS9F5R71H:6YG('1H97D@9&\@87)E('-T;W)E M9 IL;V-A;&QY(&EN('1H96ER("1(3TU%(&%N9"!W:6QL(&)E('5S960@:6YS M=&5A9"!O9B!T:&4@8V5N=')A;"!F:6QE2!A M='1E;7!T7-A9&T@=VEL;"!D;R!T;R!S>7-T96UI>F4@ M86YD( IM86ME('1H:6YG2!U;G-U:71A8FQE(&]N(&$@;F5T=V]R:R!E;G9I71H:6YG('1O(&UA:V4@0T1%('5S M969U; II;B!A(&YE='=O2!I;G!U="!A<'!R M96-I871E9" M($D@=VEL;"!S=6UM87)I>F4N"@I/9&1V87(*+2TM+2TM+2TM M+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM M+2TM+2TM+2TM+2TM+0I/9&1V87(@06YD" K 0-#<@,C(@-C,@-#$@,#<*"F]I end